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Bob Friedman: You remember going to, to these various station locations with your dad.&#13;
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Rob Puckett: Yeah. Earlier on the Bessemer Superhighway, I was just a kid, but then, on top of the mountain, I would go and, Johnny Jive—Johnny McClure in particular was, you know, very friendly to me. My daddy was recording a show, and I would go into Johnny’s studio. He’d let me look through the cabinet of his old records, you know, ‘cause I was real into rhythm and blues the time when I was at the studio and the big turn tables and play Johnny McClure’s records. &#13;
BF: As long as you weren’t on the air you could use their…&#13;
RP: Yeah.&#13;
BF: What location of the station was that?&#13;
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&#13;
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FS: And they thought that the walls couldn't fall down and wouldn't. And you really...I have said many times that I don't even think the White people who controlled everything back then, or even today, are fully conscious of how enslaved they were while they had their operatives tryin' to keep us enslaved. You know, um, when you think of the subversive acts between the officials up, all up and down the line. The local officials, the sheriffs, the police, the Klan.&#13;
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&#13;
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&#13;
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