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            <text>Rev. Fred Shuttlesworth: Segregationists though til eternity. &#13;
&#13;
Bob Friedman: Right&#13;
&#13;
FS: And they thought that the walls couldn't fall down and wouldn't. And you really...I have said many times that I don't even think the White people who controlled everything back then, or even today, are fully conscious of how enslaved they were while they had their operatives tryin' to keep us enslaved. You know, um, when you think of the subversive acts between the officials up, all up and down the line. The local officials, the sheriffs, the police, the Klan.&#13;
&#13;
BF: Mhm&#13;
&#13;
FS: The judges, the leaders of Birmingham who said they were making progress. Foolin' people... since they were tryin' to get justice and had...didn't have justice on their mind......&#13;
&#13;
BF: Mhm&#13;
&#13;
FS: I used to say... I don't know how the Lord got, had me to  figure it out, but segregation was a sort of a three tiered thing. They'd say well if the Klan don't stop you, the police will. It's the police miss ya then the courts'll get ya.&#13;
&#13;
BF: Right&#13;
&#13;
FS: So you, what you would just...it was designed and nobody could pay. &#13;
&#13;
BF: Mhm&#13;
&#13;
FS: You shall not pass.&#13;
&#13;
BF: Mhm&#13;
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FS: But, uh, I always said well God said light shines in darkness and darkness can't stop it.&#13;
&#13;
BF: We have some similar problems today with the courts. Uh...&#13;
&#13;
FS: Oh yes.&#13;
&#13;
BF: That are very tough in Alabama.&#13;
&#13;
FS: Yes&#13;
&#13;
BF: To get, uh...I mean our...You're probably familiar we had a big brawl and still continue to in terms of the ownership of the water system.&#13;
&#13;
FS: Oh yeah&#13;
&#13;
BF: And of always had to go up against judges who seem to have their minds made up already. Uh.&#13;
&#13;
FS: I call that a system of spiritual wickedness in high place, when you get in the high place, and forget what you're there for...let politics, uh, intrigue really stops the progress of the people moving forward. &#13;
&#13;
BF: Yes&#13;
&#13;
FS: I think that's the main thing. I don't...&#13;
&#13;
BF: That's the main thing.&#13;
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FS: I think people in position...well when you have position and power...&#13;
&#13;
BF: Mhm&#13;
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FS: You can really slow progress. How you can help to get forward and I always believed that you oughta use opportunities that God gives you to move things forward and make things better for people.</text>
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